(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[2013 North American Masters Round 1, Ziyang Hu (W) vs Jianing Gan (B)]PW[Ziyang Hu]PB[Jianing Gan]WR[1p]BR[7d]DT[2013-08-05]EV[North American Masters 2013]RO[1]PC[Tacoma WA]US[Andrew Jackson]C[Mef [-\]: Hola
USGO1 [-\]: Hello and welcome to the North American Masters, 2013 edition!
USGO1 [-\]: The room is abuzz, clocks are being set, and the players are trickling in
RobertT [-\]: hi hi
USGO1 [-\]: I'm Andrew Jackson and I'll be your game recorder this evening.
USGO1 [-\]: Board 1 will feature "The Kid" Ziyang Hu, with a 19-1 record in AGA games
USGO1 [-\]: against Jianing Gan 7d, fresh off an upset victory against Zhiyuan (Andy) Liu this morning
USGO1 [-\]: This game is brought to you by the AGA E-Journal's continuing coverage of the US Go Congress!
Mef [-\]: Thanks for recording for us, Andrew!
Falcon89 [3k?\]: thanks, Andrew
Eduardo [2k\]: 1p? :o
rayheart [1k\]: US 1p?
Rukis [1k\]: no
Rukis [1k\]: we only have 2 pros
Rukis [1k\]: Andy and Gansheng
USGO1 [-\]: Chinese 1p.
rayheart [1k\]: thanks for the info :)
RobertT [-\]: chinese 1p that lives in canada
RobertT [-\]: also is the winner of this jtournament last year
Chintomato [-\]: hi
Chintomato [-\]: did fan hui win?
Falcon89 [3k?\]: I thought Andy lives in the USA, no?
RobertT [-\]: w isnt andy
Eduardo [2k\]: no, chin
YellowBell [6d\]: andy does live in usa but white is not andy 
Eduardo [2k\]: fan hui lost
Chintomato [-\]: for lia right?
Falcon89 [3k?\]: Chinto, Hui was in the European tourny
Eduardo [2k\]: yeah xd
USGO1 [-\]: The players are seated and we are waiting for the room to quiet
Chintomato [-\]: thanks. yes sorry this is usgo
Chintomato [-\]: hi edu
USGO1 [-\]: our TD, Gurujeet Khalsa is bringing the room to order.
holynec [-\]: Andrew Jackson the former President?!
RobertT [-\]: yes
RobertT [-\]: he has come back from the dead to play Go
holynec [-\]: to relay a game :p
Chintomato [-\]: wow linkon
USGO1 [-\]: We begin.
Chintomato [-\]: thx us
Chintomato [-\]: send me the link for stream
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dq]
;B[qk]C[holynec [-\]: mirror go
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;W[nc]C[Eduardo [2k\]: who so fast? o.o
Chintomato [-\]: classical opening
Eduardo [2k\]: why*
GoBaba [6k\]: why not?
RobertT [-\]: because both players have played this before
Eduardo [2k\]: aps ,thx
USGO1 [-\]: Time controls are 1:30 basic, 5x1:00 japanese byo-yomi
Chintomato [-\]: usgo , where is the link for camera?
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;B[pf]
;W[qc]C[USGO1 [-\]: There is none
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;B[pc]
;W[pb]C[RobertT [-\]: :/
holynec [-\]: Which of the players is sweating?!
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;B[ob]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[re]
;B[rf]
;W[qe]
;B[qf]
;W[nb]
;B[na]C[GoBaba [6k\]: really? holynec?
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;W[jc]
;B[pe]C[RobertT [-\]: so far very standard opening
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;W[mq]
;B[po]
;W[jp]C[holynec [-\]: game so fast. are there night activities today
RobertT [-\]: it will slow down once they break book opening
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;B[fc]
;W[ec]C[GoBaba [6k\]: here comes da slo-down
holynec [-\]: doesnt white need r16? ^^
qian [1d\]: what is the clock
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;B[fd]
;W[df]C[reprisal [-\]: no, not strictly
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;B[hc]
;W[je]C[Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm
reprisal [-\]: but the corner isnt worth much withou tit
Eduardo [2k\]: Is good h17, really?
holynec [-\]: it is 7d good
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/167
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;B[fg]C[reprisal [-\]: yeah, the general rule of e17 is that you make a base if you can 
reprisal [-\]: even if its small and miserable like that
Architect [2k\]: i believe it is possible to kill corner right, or even get a ko..
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;W[jg]C[insult: i dont like black.. its too slow
insult: thats why pro players these days dont play chinese opening too often now
insult: because of o17, r17 sequence
Architect [2k\]: nah.. u wrong insult.. pros play chinese a lot
reprisal [-\]: o17 r17 stuff is fascinating
insult: in 2011-2012 yes
reprisal [-\]: that corner is such a gnarly situation
insult: but qiujun invented o18, and these days pro players dont play chinese often
Eduardo [2k\]: i've seen more shimaris on pro games lately
insult: the corner is a ko
GoBaba [6k\]: yep...ko
GoBaba [6k\]: even if w q19
insult: no, if black goes first, its a ko
Rukis [1k\]: its 2ko for you
reprisal [-\]: b starts at q19?
GoBaba [6k\]: noo
insult: idiot....
insult: black stars are t15
Rukis [1k\]: insult please dont insult others :D
insult: alrite
holynec [-\]: hey insult, what if black had high chinese
GoBaba [6k\]: admin pls admin him
holynec [-\]: still too slow ? ^^
USGO1 [-\]: K13 was the first non-instant play by Ziyang
USGO1 [-\]: and Jianing is giving this >5m already
USGO1 [-\]: Ziyang takes a stroll....
insult: this is a tough choice for black
holynec [-\]: any players have a fan?
GoBaba [6k\]: what is a stroll?
ChoUsRival [-\]: Good to clear head sometimes :)
insult: k13 is a good calm move
holynec [-\]: where is takemiya masaki? dancing? :D
insult: reduces influence, settles his group, and kind of attack black's move
insult: group*
Eduardo [2k\]: ziyang is strolling xd
xedover [?\]: a stroll is a struddle and a roll baked together
insult: black is calculating d12
USGO1 [-\]: it's a walk
GoBaba [6k\]: ok
insult: h17 is a questionable move for black
GoBaba [6k\]: ty
insult: j16 is first instinct
ChoUsRival [-\]: http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/haters-gonna-hate.gif   - Zi yang at people wondering why playing fast
holynec [-\]: why j16
Rukis [1k\]: lol
holynec [-\]: Ziyang must be young ^^
reprisal [-\]: i see, t15 q19 fails
GoBaba [6k\]: are we allowed to call ppl ididot? why is insult not kicked or banned?
RobertT [-\]: top right is actually fairly complicated
reprisal [-\]: yes, its very complicated
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;B[cn]C[Architect [2k\]: not complicated, just ko.. w dont play there cuz it is small right now
Eduardo [2k\]: :o
RobertT [-\]: think I read out the main variants though
insult: if u call me stupid for suggesting j16, u are not right
reprisal [-\]: it seems a good shape to know
insult: j16 is a more reasonable move than h17
reprisal [-\]: this joseki is very common these days
charkysan [-\]: if you don't like someone's language, you can click on censor, and you won't see their comments
Tabemasu [2d?\]: it sure happens in every tygem game ever
insult: c6 aims at c12
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;W[do]C[holynec [-\]: insult, i was just wondering o_O
profan [-\]: ciao!
reprisal [-\]: also if you play it half your opponents will assume you are dead and will act accordingly
ChoUsRival [-\]: This room is heated >.> think ill just go watch andys game
Architect [2k\]: WDC
insult: d5 ofcourse the right move
insult: i like white right now
zeven [1d\]: w has micro kobayashi
GoBaba [6k\]: b thought for mins... then played c6 which would be responsed d5... so why think now!???
GoBaba [6k\]: I thought he had read till move 155 or sth
azblueeyes [8k\]: just fyi everyone i just figured out that if i clone the game the back arrow works
insult: because he thought white would play c4, then he would play c12
Rukis [1k\]: ..
RobertT [-\]: c9
zeven [1d\]: d5 is certainly something b planned on
insult: gan jianing is a kid, he is more vulnerable to giving in his emotions
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;B[bp]C[Rukis [1k\]: insult
Rukis [1k\]: this isnt philosy class
insult: i know gan in person
zeven [1d\]: oh, i'm in the wrong class then
insult: the dude is still in high school
Rukis [1k\]: lol
Rukis [1k\]: and?
Architect [2k\]: omg... are you in drus insult?
insult: he does go problems alot... like religiously
RobertT [-\]: insult, dont be mad that you weren't invited to this tournament
Rukis [1k\]: :)
Rukis [1k\]: lol
profan [-\]: what are elements to take care in this postion?
insult: c8, d8, d9
Eduardo [2k\]: d11? :p, please dont insult , insult 
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;W[cl]C[ChoUsRival [-\]: correct me if im wrong but isnt zi yang 16?
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;B[dn]
;W[co]C[insult: ziyang is 14 or 15 i believe
insult: a pro from chinese
GoBaba [6k\]: what is the big prize of 1st?
insult: immigrated to canada
]
;B[bo]
;W[cq]C[Rukis [1k\]: *day9* Yo mama,
zeven [1d\]: 1st prize is getting to leave canada
RobertT [-\]: this seems good for white
GoBaba [6k\]: what does the winner of this tournament get?
]
;B[bm]C[RobertT [-\]: w will get c11 and wall to bottom
]
;W[el]C[RobertT [-\]: hmm or this
zeven [1d\]: is this a joseki move?
Eduardo [2k\]: a beautiful cup xd
Architect [2k\]: just kikashi i think
Rukis [1k\]: zeven
Rukis [1k\]: does it matter?
zeven [1d\]: yes, curious if w is making up his own moves or if this is common
charkysan [-\]: w's moves are inducing b to help w get cash.  what does b get out of it?
Levvo [-\]: this seems greedy :3
Rukis [1k\]: the word your looking for is inovation
Eduardo [2k\]: it isnt joseki , but is better than the joseki variation
GoBaba [6k\]: is it true that winner of this tournament will be granted free lessons from lyonweiqi?
groobiest [3k?\]: inovation is not a word
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;B[fn]
;W[bl]C[zeven [1d\]: "better than joseki variation" is clearly questionable in such a common board position
Eduardo [2k\]: well, better for me :p
charkysan [-\]: joseki are supposed to be about equal.  anything that is not equal is better or worse than joseki
groobiest [3k?\]: d12?
profan [-\]: is w strong enought to fight with 3 splitted groups?
zeven [1d\]: hes 1p
insult: white not good in this game
Rukis [1k\]: -.-
Rukis [1k\]: he ccomes the troll comment of the day
Architect [2k\]: not so simple, a fight there would made w run to center and later attack d6
profan [-\]: zeven i have no doubt about w strenght, i doubt about board position
GoBaba [6k\]: don'T speak no doubt ^^
criatura [1d\]: g3 ?
GoBaba [6k\]: nice song!
insult: black doesnt have an obvious position here
insult: which makes it difficult
profan [-\]: i imagine a move like h6 for black, ready to split bottom or attack d10 area
Eduardo [2k\]: f3
insult: f3 invites white cut
zeven [1d\]: f3 will end in disaster
qian [1d\]: f3 looks too aggressive
Levvo [-\]: black doesnt look very strong.. I wouldn't fight yet.
RobertT [-\]: eduardo, you are a braver man than I
tipsuji [4d\]: g4?
insult: g4 leads to cut also..
insult: that was my initial instinct too
Jermelle [-\]: Hello USGO
RobertT [-\]: g7
insult: i would play g7
GoBaba [6k\]: why not simply e5?
zeven [1d\]: yes, g7 feels "right"
Eduardo [2k\]: g7?, f8 maybe
GoKoala [3k\]: e5 too much aji
zeven [1d\]: f8 is thank-you move
RobertT [-\]: dont like any of the follow ups after g7 and w protects bottom
groobiest [3k?\]: g4 is so nice for w
reprisal [-\]: g7 looks slack to me
groobiest [3k?\]: so why not g4 for b?
reprisal [-\]: i think b must pressure d3 somehow
RobertT [-\]: j4 it is
profan [-\]: can i have clock check?
GoKoala [3k\]: is there a problem with f3 beyond it seems aggressive?
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;B[gm]C[GoBaba [6k\]: is a tenuki like c12 possible?
RobertT [-\]: f3 gets cut
USGO1 [-\]: b has 61:13 remaining
groobiest [3k?\]: w has e6 wedge
groobiest [3k?\]: d
insult: yeah g7
groobiest [3k?\]: so g7 is cautious
]
;W[gp]C[groobiest [3k?\]: :(
RobertT [-\]: now is the part I dont like...
RobertT [-\]: b has to somehow used this on left
reprisal [-\]: yup
tipsuji [4d\]: d9, d12? 
Eduardo [2k\]: d12
reprisal [-\]: but its not easy, with both b groups floating themselves
Becubio [5k\]: d10?
KemoClaw [2k\]: didn't lee sedol try this opening with white in the LG cup and got TOTALLY SPANKED by Tuo Jiaxi?
reprisal [-\]: attacking with hands tied
insult: tuo jiaxi is ugly.. dont talk about him
RobertT [-\]: this opening is very common kemoclaw
RobertT [-\]: well not up to here but before the approaches
profan [-\]: where is a database free to check this opening'
reprisal [-\]: this opening = game up to here??
RobertT [-\]: not up to here
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;B[dg]
;W[cg]C[charkysan [-\]: seems like b has used more time, but we can't see the clock running
RobertT [-\]: hard for black because he cant try playing lightly since top group is already heavy
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;B[ch]C[Merlot [1k\]: D13 REALLY BAD
RobertT [-\]: if he gets cut through it becomes 3 weak groups
insult: d13 is the only plausible move merlot
charkysan [-\]: b appears to be aiming at c8 group
groobiest [3k?\]: d13 seems doable
USGO1 [-\]: Ziyang bites his thumb
groobiest [3k?\]: oh no! not the thumb!
charkysan [-\]: that's thumbthing!
RobertT [-\]: c8 hard to attack. w always has a move like g9 that gets out and threatens b bottom left
Rukis [1k\]: he bites his thumb at you
tfunk [9k?\]: do you bite your thumg at me sir
GoKoala [3k\]: c14?  then black has to fix and white gets tons of cash
groobiest [3k?\]: :)
Rukis [1k\]: I bite my thumb at thee!~
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;W[dh]
;B[eg]
;W[cf]C[reprisal [-\]: koala, that would leave c8 in dire straights
criatura [1d\]: b want atack e8 now ? 
charkysan [-\]: well, b can't kill c8, but if he can, he can neutralize its influence to prevent w from getting the left side
RobertT [-\]: and now g9 is ladder breaker
Rukis [1k\]: d9
GoKoala [3k\]: c8 isn't really doing anything great anyways
reprisal [-\]: sure, but you cant just let it die
insult: what ladder...
Rukis [1k\]: insult
York [-\]: not sure if d9 works
Rukis [1k\]: think
Eduardo [2k\]: d10
Rukis [1k\]: harder
insult: d11, e12, then f11
Rukis [1k\]: i know its hard for you to think about it, but if you think hard enough then you will see it
Architect [2k\]: read againg insult...
Architect [2k\]: i bet u can read what is wrong with your variation..
reprisal [-\]: theres nothing wrong with it
Rukis [1k\]: i was thinking
reprisal [-\]: he's much stronger than you
Eduardo [2k\]: insult is ok
Rukis [1k\]: d9 d8 c11 
RobertT [-\]: I guess w has ladder anyways
insult: lol Rukis, kyu level player.. hahaha u are commenting this game
insult: hahahahahha
insult: black has ladder?? hahahahaha
Rukis [1k\]: ...
insult: u think harader
criatura [1d\]: c11
Falablah [1k\]: Why don't we all stop ragging on each other and focus on the game instead?
royu [5d\]: -_-'
insult: black will play c11
York [-\]: is that a hate speech?
insult: or the sequence i mentioned before
Rukis [1k\]: d9 first
Eduardo [2k\]: why don't insult stop.... xd
ChoUsRival [-\]: Fala, you must be new to kgs. this is all quite common sadly ^^;
Rukis [1k\]: Cho you must be the cause :o
Architect [2k\]: sure reprisal.. feed the troll
insult: just because my username is insult, doesnt mean i insult other people
Falablah [1k\]: The d11 e12 f11 variation looks good to me
royu [5d\]: i'd pay good money to watch go + mma hybrid sport
Rukis [1k\]: lol
criatura [1d\]: if b  d9 now , w ignore and take c11 
insult: oh heres comes 2k
Tabemasu [2d?\]: however, your actions tend to show that you do
insult: hohoho, lets all listen to him
Rukis [1k\]: that would be the point
KemoClaw [2k\]: they do have the chess/boxing hybrid, you're onto something, royu
reprisal [-\]: royu, the problem is that getting kicked around in mma will affect your go, but winning in go wont affect your mma
Rukis [1k\]: d9 c11 d8 
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;B[io]C[reprisal [-\]: the go position needs to be reflected in some meatspace handicap for the mma half
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
criatura [1d\]: lol ! 
Akagi316 [-\]: whoa
Eduardo [2k\]: j5 nvm
Jermelle [-\]: o.o
Akagi316 [-\]: why j5
Rukis [1k\]: well now..
groobiest [3k?\]: ha! youse are all totally worng
insult: Akagi316 [-\]: why j5
insult: Akagi316 [-\]: why j5
insult: Akagi316 [-\]: why j5
criatura [1d\]: prepare c11  ?
insult: hahahah
ChoUsRival [-\]: royu, i like your idea. start a kickster for it :)
Levvo [-\]: ladder breaker :3
Rukis [1k\]: what ladder o.o
Tabemasu [2d?\]: why hasn't anybody kicked or banned him yet
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;W[ip]
;B[di]C[Levvo [-\]: The one in your garage
USGO1 [-\]: ziyangs eyebrows go up
Eduardo [2k\]: ladder :D
]
;W[bh]
;B[eh]C[Architect [2k\]: i wonder the same Tabemasu..
Rukis [1k\]: oh that ladder xD
criatura [1d\]: ._.
]
;W[bi]C[gusesss: I don't think w ever wanted to escape D12
criatura [1d\]: the most simple 
groobiest [3k?\]: w has a nice bottom
insult: j5 in itself loses many pts 
gusesss: w prepared to move B12
Falablah [1k\]: yeah j5 seems painful for black
insult: black now should t15
royu [5d\]: "ko?! ARGHHH!!"  *throws stones, goban, goes for tackle into kimura submission"
Rukis [1k\]: black wont t15
gusesss: L16
Rukis [1k\]: xD
Rukis [1k\]: lol
profan [-\]: killing k13?
ChoUsRival [-\]: royu i officially love you
groobiest [3k?\]: o9?
insult: t15 biggest, no?
Falablah [1k\]: does the weakness at p19 mean that white is alive in the corner?
Rukis [1k\]: no it isnt
Rukis [1k\]: its gote
charkysan [-\]: in cash, w ahead by more than komi, and that's assuming b can keep the right side, which looks strong for now
groobiest [3k?\]: big does not have tobe sente
Rukis [1k\]: thats not the point
Rukis [1k\]: basicly white can ignore
Rukis [1k\]: and its double gote for black to kill it
groobiest [3k?\]: so?
gusesss: b has to try to make k13 in a state taht is not clean live
groobiest [3k?\]: so o9
Rukis [1k\]: white gets 2 free moves
USGO4 [-\]: SE loves black here. Is the top right group dead even if white r16?
Tabemasu [2d?\]: i think its hard to fight the biggest point now
royu [5d\]: that is a pretty cool ladder breaker at j5 btw
Rukis [1k\]: r16 and white lives :o
Falablah [1k\]: Rukis, are you sure t15 doesn't kill outright?
USGO1 [-\]: Ziyang has left the board
insult: t15 is ko..
Rukis [1k\]: yes Falablah its Ko
Falablah [1k\]: ah
DickOne [2d\]: hu ziyang is now 2p
Falablah [1k\]: I was too lazy to bother reading it out :)
York [-\]: hmm, left the board?
groobiest [3k?\]: w would love o9, ergo b should o9
groobiest [3k?\]: um, p9
groobiest [3k?\]: you know what i mean
insult: m17, t15 pick one
royu [5d\]: i would l14
Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm
USGO1 [-\]: i like L14.  but i liked g7 too...
York [-\]: any continuation of l14?
groobiest [3k?\]: i didn't really get w k13 tbh
horacelamb [3d\]: Are there video feeds for these games somewhere?
York [-\]: assume w connects
USGO1 [-\]: Not this year, not yet.
royu [5d\]: l14 k14 m12 (wherever w plays) n5 
horacelamb [3d\]: okay, thanks
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;B[lg]C[Eduardo [2k\]: m13 yeah
insult: p9
York [-\]: seems better than L14
York [-\]: l14 is not immediate threat that b doesn't have follow ups here, it may be crude
kcharris12 [1d\]: l14 doesn't let w become stronger
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;W[gf]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: m13*
SColbert [4d\]: b looks hopeless now
kcharris12 [1d\]: f14?
gusesss: agree
kcharris12 [1d\]: 15*
horacelamb [3d\]: e15 
gusesss: losing without any resistance...
Levvo [-\]: gives another free white move though
SColbert [4d\]: too painful
SColbert [4d\]: for b
kcharris12 [1d\]: it's not like b can connect and threaten something
gerulas [3k\]: thats the price 4 m13
Eduardo [2k\]: e15 what other alternative?
Levvo [-\]: maybe he shoulda done j14 -> m13
kcharris12 [1d\]: h14
royu [5d\]: j14 
York [-\]: J14 to m13 isn't good either
reprisal [-\]: peeping the wrong side is really hard to do
York [-\]: this kind of peep is losing too much aji
lexansoft [2k\]: e16?
York [-\]: usually only played when w's shape is really heavy to be severely attacked. this is not the case
WackOu [2d\]: basically, B is cut
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;B[hf]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: haza
SColbert [4d\]: w gets to make shape
WackOu [2d\]: Now the question becomes, can top live?
USGO1 [-\]: b has used 48 minutes
WackOu [2d\]: E13 can run to the center
LongLost [5k\]: Is this televised?
royu [5d\]: complicated move
York [-\]: shobute
SColbert [4d\]: h15 looks alright
Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm
]
;W[he]C[Architect [2k\]: h15 f14 
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;B[id]C[Architect [2k\]: hehe
USGO1 [-\]: J16 was instant
royu [5d\]: did ziyang's ears turn red?
Architect [2k\]: lol
Eduardo [2k\]: hahahah
Eduardo [2k\]: xD
York [-\]: Go seigen played a similar move
royu [5d\]: as go seigen played tens of thousands of games, I'd have to agree
USGO1 [-\]: I don't think i would see this couplet
semicolon [5k\]: lol
York [-\]: that was the 7th game of jubango against sakata eio
USGO1 [-\]: Neither did Ziyang, who seems to be settling in to think.
Snova1987a [10k\]: J15
Eduardo [2k\]: i agree, xd
BeefCake [4d\]: lol royu
royu [5d\]: much tougher position with UR corner not settled
]
;W[ie]
;B[jd]
;W[kd]
;B[ke]C[royu [5d\]: this will be fun... delicate fight for life for r17, o17, k16, j15, and f13 groups
Rukis [1k\]: l15 g17 g16 h16 j17 g18 l17 f18 
Rukis [1k\]: this doesnt looks so good
USGO1 [-\]: not G17, Rukis
Rukis [1k\]: so g17 isnt a good move :D
Rukis [1k\]: h18 good here yes?
royu [5d\]: g18 looks like better shape
royu [5d\]: but l17 is not connected yet
insult: uh oh, white in trouble
ladyhahah: ss
Rukis [1k\]: I dont see a good move for white
Akagi316 [-\]: j17
]
;W[lc]C[Snova1987a [10k\]: you sure, W is in trouble?
Rukis [1k\]: yeah
Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm, i see problems for b xd
Snova1987a [10k\]: well so is B, even more than W it seems
SColbert [4d\]: m15 
Snova1987a [10k\]: H17 dead
Rukis [1k\]: oh sequence please
]
;B[ic]C[Eduardo [2k\]: i am not so sure, but yes
Eduardo [2k\]: g17 did looks dangerous
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing hasn't even looked at Ziyang's remaining time
USGO1 [-\]: so i have no idea how much time he has
Rukis [1k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing has 39:27
Snova1987a [10k\]: wow dude, you're really observant
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaa, very informative 
USGO1 [-\]: that's my job
York [-\]: Are they japanese or chinese or korean?
York [-\]: those names
SColbert [4d\]: w in serious trouble
Akagi316 [-\]: hu is chinese
royu [5d\]: both chinese
Akagi316 [-\]: isnt m15 the obvious move here?
USGO1 [-\]: No.
USGO1 [-\]: "kyus atari, pros capture"
selahaddin [7k\]: dans?
SColbert [4d\]: m17 almost dead
York [-\]: truths are hard:(
USGO1 [-\]: We muddle
iceweasel [-\]: which of the 4 games has the most obsercers?
Eduardo [2k\]: royu, what do u would play here?
insult: usgo1 u are mean
Snova1987a [10k\]: dang it, i shouldn't have played Atari all through the 80s
York [-\]: since 4years ago i haven't played an atari
FirePrince [-\]: who is playing
Rukis [1k\]: Ziyang 1p
Eduardo [2k\]: u cant atari here, i think
York [-\]: the last time i played was pacman on an emulator
Rukis [1k\]: and Jianing Gan 7d
FirePrince [-\]: I see
Rukis [1k\]: pro is white
FirePrince [-\]: ok
FirePrince [-\]: thx rukis xD
SColbert [4d\]: jian is about to beat two pros in a row
Rukis [1k\]: no problem :D
Eduardo [2k\]: k18? :/:...
FirePrince [-\]: on phone lol
Rukis [1k\]: yeah i figured ;/
FirePrince [-\]: :/
Rukis [1k\]: k18 doesnt do much but give white shape
cyc [?\]: hi, rukis/prince!
SColbert [4d\]: has to n19
royu [5d\]: I'd put my stone almost down at k18, look at b's expression... then lift finger... then almost put stone down at f14... then...
USGO1 [-\]: This recorder beat Jianing Gan
Rukis [1k\]: Hey cyc
USGO1 [-\]: ...back in 2009.
Rukis [1k\]: lol
FirePrince [-\]: hey cyc
Snova1987a [10k\]: pros losing to high dan amas isn't so uncommon in these types of tourneys
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
SColbert [4d\]: this game is pretty much over 
Rukis [1k\]: pros losing to high dan amas isnt uncommon anywhere
FirePrince [-\]: b doing well 
Rukis [1k\]: yeah eh is
Rukis [1k\]: he*
ladyhahah:  hh
]
;W[le]
;B[kf]
;W[jb]C[Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm
USGO1 [-\]: w seems unhappy about that.
FirePrince [-\]: hm
Eduardo [2k\]: i dont like atari first
insult: USGO1 [-\]: No. USGO1 [-\]: "kyus atari, pros capture"
FirePrince [-\]: seems ok to me
USGO1 [-\]: Clearly i am weak :)
FirePrince [-\]: xD
Snova1987a [10k\]: you're a better recorder than the previous ones, the other ones had little color commentary
]
;B[ee]C[SColbert [4d\]: good time to connect
FirePrince [-\]: n13
FirePrince [-\]: Idk seems it wud annoy b
Eduardo [2k\]: h13?
SColbert [4d\]: e15 leaves weakness
royu [5d\]: w might be considering f15
Eduardo [2k\]: e15 leaves a ko? xd
Rukis [1k\]: e15 leaves miai
USGO1 [-\]: i liked b F15, actually
replicator [2d\]: white has 4 groups on one side of the board.  Very hard to handle
Snova1987a [10k\]: but F15, B gets D17
zeven [1d\]: i bet b played it without reading it
Eduardo [2k\]: h12*
gerulas [3k\]: w f15?
Rukis [1k\]: f15 e16 
FirePrince [-\]: n13
Rukis [1k\]: gerulas its miai
Rukis [1k\]: connection or live on top
SColbert [4d\]: n18 is necessary
]
;W[gb]C[Eduardo [2k\]: wow
royu [5d\]: can w play n18 though? because of UR corner
royu [5d\]: rukis, that g18 coming back :)
zeven [1d\]: you must be talking about n19
ladyhahah: great
Rukis [1k\]: lol
Rukis [1k\]: xD
Rukis [1k\]: it did
Rukis [1k\]: only becuase you got your with
SColbert [4d\]: n16
Rukis [1k\]: wish
SColbert [4d\]: h16
zeven [1d\]: the recorder whispered it to w
FirePrince [-\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: i am sitting next to B :P
zeven [1d\]: b is very hard of hearing
Rukis [1k\]: g17 h16 are terrible moves xD
royu [5d\]: next time he is about to put down a stone, tickle him
Rukis [1k\]: lol
FirePrince [-\]: hm
]
;B[fb]C[Snova1987a [10k\]: B didn't expect this
USGO1 [-\]: Jianing hesitated before playing F18, then plays it anyway
USGO1 [-\]: Ziyang is taking a walk...
FirePrince [-\]: lol
Eduardo [2k\]: ziyang is strolling again xD
Snova1987a [10k\]: in true pro fashion, talking a walk
USGO1 [-\]: His flourescent sneakers return!
Eduardo [2k\]: XD
Eduardo [2k\]: lol
Snova1987a [10k\]: and not really recognized for their fashion
SColbert [4d\]: may w d18
]
;W[hh]C[FirePrince [-\]: lil
FirePrince [-\]: lol*
disturbing [1d\]: they're still playing?
yoohaha [3k\]: who is better now?
Eduardo [2k\]: even? -___-
royu [5d\]: b will play outside like h11 or g11 
dbias [4k\]: well, SE says white
dbias [4k\]: and I trust its judgement
criatura [1d\]: 1p power 
yoohaha [3k\]: who is SE?
Snova1987a [10k\]: W still has upper right to tend to, in gote, right?
royu [5d\]: w top group has weakness still, and b doesn't want to have to connect in gote at e14
Akagi316 [-\]: wow SE
royu [5d\]: (w can cut with f15)
SColbert [4d\]: h18 makes eye
SColbert [4d\]: for top group
zeven [1d\]: LOL @ SE
zeven [1d\]: this is the best one yet
SColbert [4d\]: so w top is okay
Akagi316 [-\]: SE too strong
Akagi316 [-\]: even bottom right is dead
SColbert [4d\]: w paid a price tho
Eduardo [2k\]: hey SE tell u pls xd
SColbert [4d\]: d18 opens up
Rukis [1k\]: the whole board is dead xD
Eduardo [2k\]: SE = score estimated
Eduardo [2k\]: i think :p
]
;B[mb]C[disturbing [1d\]: estimator
Eduardo [2k\]: thx disturbing 
zeven [1d\]: p19 sente is not fun for w
Jermelle [-\]: it shows how much you should never trust SE
Rukis [1k\]: you kidding?
Rukis [1k\]: SE says white wins
Rukis [1k\]: white obviously wins now
SColbert [4d\]: n17
Eduardo [2k\]:  w + 328.5 hahahaha
Music [-\]: gogogo HuZiyang
disturbing [1d\]: how is p19 sente?
SColbert [4d\]: is my guess
zeven [1d\]: i usually resign when SE tells me to
zeven [1d\]: p19 is sente on the top right w group
Snova1987a [10k\]: P19 sente because W then needs to make life on upper right
disturbing [1d\]: ... w need to make life there regardless
Rukis [1k\]: no life
Rukis [1k\]: its ko
replicator [2d\]: Using SE during game is cheating....yourself
]
;W[hb]
;B[gc]C[Rukis [1k\]: well white has to play r16 lol
Rukis [1k\]: well if its avaliable why not? :D
SColbert [4d\]: d18 later sente
SColbert [4d\]: then
SColbert [4d\]: g19 can connect
]
;W[lb]
;B[mc]
;W[ib]C[SColbert [4d\]: now ko activated
USGO1 [-\]: B crosses the 30:00 mark
Rukis [1k\]: oo
]
;B[ge]C[rayheart [1d\]: how many time doees white have?
Rukis [1k\]: endgame wont be pretty
]
;W[qd]C[USGO1 [-\]: as b has not yet looked at w's time, i don't know.
Rukis [1k\]: wait O.o
Rukis [1k\]: oh
Rukis [1k\]: because you sitting next to him
SColbert [4d\]: h12 is weak group
]
;B[ig]C[Rukis [1k\]: white will probably sac some stones
SColbert [4d\]: b can try make large moyo on right
Rukis [1k\]: no he has to lol
Rukis [1k\]: now*
]
;W[hg]
;B[if]
;W[pn]C[Music [-\]: can't read at all lol
SColbert [4d\]:  j13 too direct
Eduardo [2k\]: ladder breaker xd
criatura [1d\]: break ladder xD ! 
zeven [1d\]: ive never seen so many ladder breakers
Rukis [1k\]: neat lol
criatura [1d\]: hahahah
Akagi316 [-\]: lol
Akagi316 [-\]: this time i see it
Eduardo [2k\]: i did learn this with Rukis, xd 
Rukis [1k\]: o7 r5 p6 q4 p5 r4 q7 r6 l7 
Rukis [1k\]: looks like fun :D
]
;B[oo]C[USGO1 [-\]: slam!
Rukis [1k\]: o8 next 
Rukis [1k\]: lol
Eduardo [2k\]: o8?
Snova1987a [10k\]: W has no friendlies around
Snotty [17k\]: Do spectators not get to see the time?
Rukis [1k\]: only ladderbreakers will help
]
;W[pk]
;B[jf]
;W[ql]C[Rukis [1k\]: this is a demo
disturbing [1d\]: can demos not run the clock?
SColbert [4d\]: b caught three stones
Rukis [1k\]: no they dont
SColbert [4d\]: but right moyo gone
reprisal [-\]: i thought b would just keep responding on right
SColbert [4d\]: not happy tade
reprisal [-\]: and let w take the stones in ladder
reprisal [-\]: it would take two whole moves to do that
]
;B[qj]
;W[qn]
;B[qo]C[Eduardo [2k\]: XD
]
;W[rm]C[SColbert [4d\]: w happy 
Rukis [1k\]: yeah but remember that f13 andl14  wouldnt be fully alive
reprisal [-\]: with d18 should be okay
Akagi316 [-\]: w has a lot of cash
SColbert [4d\]: f9
criatura [1d\]: b ahead =D 
SColbert [4d\]: big
]
;B[cj]C[SColbert [4d\]: b has to make big center
]
;W[bj]C[rayheart [1d\]: how is black ahead
emre06 [9k\]: final match?
Rukis [1k\]: no
Rukis [1k\]: first round
globax [3d\]: g5 before f9
SColbert [4d\]: f9 bad :)
SColbert [4d\]: then f4
globax [3d\]: yes, cut
USGO1 [-\]: b crosses 20:00
USGO1 [-\]: w has ~47:00
USGO1 [-\]: (i've been informed)
]
;B[fp]C[TheCoon [1d\]: f4 nice
SColbert [4d\]: e5
]
;W[eo]C[criatura [1d\]: f4 was bad ._.
TheCoon [1d\]: as usual colbert
TheCoon [1d\]: good calls
SColbert [4d\]: d7
]
;B[dl]C[criatura [1d\]: o: !
SColbert [4d\]: thx :)
]
;W[fo]
;B[dk]
;W[en]
;B[em]C[RobertT [-\]: good for black
]
;W[jl]
;B[lo]C[emre06 [9k\]: i dont know go
emre06 [9k\]: if this is go
]
;W[lp]C[Harvey [6k\]: Is c17 possible for black?
SColbert [4d\]: i think so
sentra [2d\]: yes
RobertT [-\]: it is
Harvey [6k\]: Okay, thanks.
SColbert [4d\]: p7
DBraymer [15k\]: Isn't W quite commandingly in the lead?
Rukis [1k\]: depends
Rukis [1k\]: really
emc2 [3d\]: M8
Akagi316 [-\]: b center potential
criatura [1d\]: L7
Falablah [1k\]: m8 looks good at first but I think it's too loose
]
;B[om]C[Thew [2d\]: m8 -> L6
RobertT [-\]: darn 1 off
Thew [2d\]: fighting spirit
USGO1 [-\]: P7 goes down decisively
DBraymer [15k\]: nice one Colbert 
RobertT [-\]: p7 and p8 then attack center
SColbert [4d\]: :)
sentra [2d\]: b's center not much potential to 1p player
RobertT [-\]: I was looking at p8 instead of p7 >.<
]
;W[pm]C[SColbert [4d\]: p8 is not good
rayheart [1d\]: p8 is not sente
SColbert [4d\]: now p8
]
;B[ol]C[criatura [1d\]: Scolbert 1p pls 
]
;W[im]C[rayheart [1d\]: not sente :)
Rukis [1k\]: j6!
SColbert [4d\]: cut is happy
Rukis [1k\]: j6 only move :D
Falablah [1k\]: p8 makes more potential for the upper middle
swampthing [3d\]: q8
sentra [2d\]: s5
SColbert [4d\]: s5 is possible too
RobertT [-\]: ya s5 either w 1 eye and running or b gets q8 in sente
]
;B[ro]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]C[SColbert [4d\]: can b kill
emre06 [9k\]: no
RobertT [-\]: he cant
SColbert [4d\]: if w q8
emre06 [9k\]: but upper center big
RobertT [-\]: if q8 then 1 eye and running
RobertT [-\]: so w must read out
SColbert [4d\]: yeah 
sentra [2d\]: good to attack and prepare for center moyo
manofearth [?\]: unless he refuses 2let b chop off q9  insente
]
;W[pl]C[Falablah [1k\]: ah, fighting spirit!
criatura [1d\]: let's see now xD 
RobertT [-\]: if 1 eye and running the threat is getting strength then comming back and b playing something against j7 stones
]
;B[sk]
;W[sl]
;B[rl]
;W[on]C[SColbert [4d\]: lets see
emre06 [9k\]: he hav e to
Snova1987a [10k\]: take
]
;B[nn]C[Eduardo [2k\]: o--o
]
;W[rk]
;B[md]C[manofearth [?\]: now the answer is more interesting.;a s we c
USGO1 [-\]: b crosses 10:00
RobertT [-\]: 1st rule of ko is ignore everything, right?
]
;W[ld]
;B[rl]C[Rukis [1k\]: only in fuseki
]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[rk]C[Falablah [1k\]: this threat seems dangerous for w
reprisal [-\]: yeah robert, thats the only way to make sure you never lose a ko
reprisal [-\]: nobody likes to lose things
ladyhahah:  n7 now?
]
;B[cc]C[DBraymer [15k\]: oh snap
Rukis [1k\]: oo lol
tfunk [9k?\]: very nice
SColbert [4d\]: ignore
criatura [1d\]: ignore 
SColbert [4d\]: n7
Mentalist [?\]: hi USGO
manofearth [?\]: wht's za threat?
Falablah [1k\]: the whole white group is in danger, no?
sentra [2d\]: this is huge
Thew [2d\]: its just big
Falablah [1k\]: nvm
sentra [2d\]: b d15
Mentalist [?\]: has w grown at all in the past year?
Thew [2d\]: is he a kid?
USGO1 [-\]: lots
reprisal [-\]: w didnt have the corner in the first place
reprisal [-\]: so losing it all isnt so bad
Falablah [1k\]: couldn't black have n7 then tried to kill the j7 stones?
Falablah [1k\]: or is that no possible?
]
;W[mm]C[NYboy [2k\]: perfect timing for this move by black
]
;B[ml]C[ladyhahah: My guess is that b should n7 and now no chance
sentra [2d\]: dont understand n7
reprisal [-\]: w close to not having to fight the ko
Harbinger [4k\]: W feels behind and thinks he cant afford to just take ko maybe?
SColbert [4d\]: extend
reprisal [-\]: looks more like take free moves instead of take ko to me
reprisal [-\]: just have to be careful
billlin [9d\]: jianing go \\o/
billlin [9d\]: avenge me
Harbinger [4k\]: lol
reprisal [-\]: :0
billlin [9d\]: lol
Mef [-\]: hehe
USGO1 [-\]: :D hello bill!
billlin [9d\]: hey ^
NYboy [2k\]: billlin game after this?
]
;W[sj]
;B[de]
;W[bd]C[RobertT [-\]: billin 1v1 me irl
billlin [9d\]: lol sure
]
;B[cd]C[emre06 [9k\]: 9d=9k?
]
;W[bc]
;B[ce]
;W[be]C[sentra [2d\]: m7
billlin [9d\]: any day my friend :>
criatura [1d\]: xD 
RobertT [-\]: wednesday bring it
Thew [2d\]: fail?
]
;B[mp]C[RobertT [-\]: I'll bring my gloves
USGO1 [-\]: RobertT bring Nick :P
DBraymer [15k\]: oh snap what
USGO1 [-\]: No comments
]
;W[kp]C[Rukis [1k\]: bring me too v.v lol
RobertT [-\]: I'm currently in a different city and me going there was last minute
Rukis [1k\]: lol
]
;B[nq]C[RobertT [-\]: 2 days ago I was like "meh, its only 3 hours away"
]
;W[mr]C[Thew [2d\]: how's the count?
criatura [1d\]: j10 ? 
billlin [9d\]: b has not enough territory 
]
;B[ik]C[criatura [1d\]: so close :c
Akiha [2d\]: yet so far
]
;W[hl]C[billlin [9d\]: just like my game :p
billlin [9d\]: hope jianing doesnt give up in endgame
billlin [9d\]: like i did
]
;B[go]C[criatura [1d\]: ko for game ! 
]
;W[hn]C[criatura [1d\]: no ko ._.
USGO1 [-\]: b 5:00
Harbinger [4k\]: aiming for cut?
sentra [2d\]: h4 then h5?
RobertT [-\]: w ahead a little under komi
]
;B[gn]
;W[ho]
;B[bq]C[RobertT [-\]: well that failed lol
criatura [1d\]: me dio frio en los pies
]
;W[fq]
;B[gj]C[reprisal [-\]: f8 really annoying
]
;W[jk]C[reprisal [-\]: not much room left to make up the gap
reprisal [-\]: and w shapes are solid
NYboy [2k\]: who is winning?
]
;B[nr]C[reprisal [-\]: have to play really excellent endgame i guess
]
;W[ns]C[Harbinger [4k\]: i would guess W ahead.. i would hate to play B in this board position
billlin [9d\]: w's endgame
RobertT [-\]: ya
]
;B[lm]C[billlin [9d\]: i experienced it few times lol
billlin [9d\]: first hand
holynec [-\]: howd it feel
]
;W[ij]C[reprisal [-\]: it stings?
]
;B[ii]C[billlin [9d\]: frustrating.
]
;W[hj]
;B[hi]
;W[ji]C[billlin [9d\]: like this
]
;B[ih]
;W[gk]
;B[si]
;W[sk]
;B[se]
;W[sd]
;B[sf]
;W[sb]
;B[pj]
;W[ri]
;B[sh]
;W[oj]
;B[pi]
;W[oi]
;B[ph]
;W[fj]
;B[gi]
;W[fl]
;B[fm]
;W[np]C[criatura [1d\]: p2 
RobertT [-\]: the pain
reprisal [-\]: he seems to know exactly what move he wants at all times
Harbinger [4k\]: ouchies
]
;B[mo]C[reprisal [-\]: no pause between them
]
;W[oq]C[RobertT [-\]: p2 n6
USGO1 [-\]: b enters byoyomi
insult: i think white is overall stronger than black
reprisal [-\]: just following a planned sequence
billlin [9d\]: lol duh
]
;B[or]C[RobertT [-\]: p2 = game resigning move
billlin [9d\]: hes chinese pro
]
;W[pr]
;B[op]
;W[os]
;B[no]
;W[qr]C[Falablah [1k\]: ouch
RobertT [-\]: so yeah...
]
;B[kj]C[insult: too bad he is in canada, can't become a top pro in china anymore
]
;W[jj]
;B[ok]
;W[me]
;B[ne]
;W[mg]C[Akiha [2d\]: w seems slightly better
RobertT [-\]: dont see the hope
]
;B[mh]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[mf]C[insult: c18 is really big
]
;B[og]
;W[lk]C[reprisal [-\]: yeah the deficit isnt huge..but theres nowhere to gain
RobertT [-\]: at this rank, the deficit is huge
killrbunny [2k\]: w up by 10 on the goard?
eikreis [4k?\]: w is ahead at a massive margin
insult: white crushed black's soul
USGO1 [-\]: b has 3 periods remaining
SColbert [4d\]: j13 was bad
]
;B[rq]
;W[rr]C[Harbinger [4k\]: i would say if komi is 6.5, W should win by around 11?
]
;B[sr]
;W[eb]C[manofearth [?\]: not massive. can't we just agree on substantial?
Harbinger [4k\]: or more lol
happysocks [-\]: besides isn't huge until tiny elvis says so
]
;B[bb]
;W[fa]C[criatura [1d\]: b cry ?
]
;B[br]
;W[mj]
;B[ds]
;W[er]C[RobertT [-\]: w+ 8.5
globax [3d\]: m11
killrbunny [2k\]: with komi?
killrbunny [2k\]: dude, I so can't count
]
;B[mi]
;W[nj]C[RobertT [-\]: how awesome would it be if my wild guess was right
RobertT [-\]: ;p
killrbunny [2k\]: I guess 14.5
]
;B[ki]
;W[ll]C[RobertT [-\]: did  you take this endgame into account?
]
;B[km]C[Architect [2k\]: ´
]
;W[jh]C[killrbunny [2k\]: nope, I don't do endgame!
]
;B[am]
;W[al]
;B[ac]
;W[db]C[insult: Billin, can you commentate why white took the lead midgame
]
;B[cb]C[billlin [9d\]: it was opening
]
;W[fi]C[billlin [9d\]: that he took lead already
Rukis [1k\]: xD
billlin [9d\]: he just kept it
billlin [9d\]: all the way
USGO1 [-\]: why b t9 instead of t8?
DonValley [7d\]: thanks bill
insult: so black was too slow in the beginning
]
;B[lh]C[chenccc1 [3k\]: white will be L12 next
]
;W[jn]C[RobertT [-\]: ya, after top left approach and bottom left appraoch, whites position was better
RobertT [-\]: was uphill battle ever since
billlin [9d\]: hey andrew ^
]
;B[ko]
;W[jo]C[insult: ahem, i was right
logodude [3d\]: hey bill
]
;B[ck]C[DonValley [7d\]: hey andrew
]
;W[bk]C[RobertT [-\]: hey robert
RobertT [-\]: ...... TT_TT
Architect [2k\]: hey guys
billlin [9d\]: hey rob fite me
billlin [9d\]: lol
]
;B[of]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[ps]C[RobertT [-\]: I'll do it with 1 hand tied behind my back
Star1 [-\]: hm
]
;B[sn]
;W[rn]C[RobertT [-\]: you aint nothin'
Harvey [6k\]: Fistfight or ko fight?
Star1 [-\]: hah
billlin [9d\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: B has resigned
Star1 [-\]: k
Star1 [-\]: thx
Star1 [-\]: gg
RobertT [-\]: need to work on his pro level resign timing
Star1 [-\]: wha
momNdread: w win?!
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching everyone!
insult: why no comments?
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